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in the hands of the senate. >>> president obama is scheduled to give an update on the fiscal cliff within the next 15 minutes. when that happens, we will join him live for that announcement. >> for more on the fiscal cliff and what it could moon for your pay, we got you covered. just head to our home page for a breakdown of different scenarios in washington, what it could moan for your money. for more on the fiscal cliff and a heated debate, check out an all brand-new episode of square off. the round table discussion airs right here on abc2 at 11 on sunday morning. >>> continuing coverage in the planned port strike. dock workers have been working on an expired contract. today the u.s. marry time alines and the long shoring association have agreed to a 30 day extension allowing for more time to negotiate a new deal. a major sticking point will have to be cleared up by january 28. it involves royalty payments for members based on each container they unload. >>> an early morning shootout at a new jersey police headquarters left three officers with wounds. >> how the suspect managed to get on
. >> arthel: mixed messages on fiscal cliff, next today. republican senator lindsay graham expressing optimism on deal and president obama is calling out lawmakers for rejecting offers for last month. >> what do you think the chances of a small deal in the less 48 hours to avoid the cliff? >> exceedingly good. i think what have we accomplished, a political vick for the president. the president has stood his ground. he is going to get tax rate increases but upper income americans and sad news for the country we have accomplished very little of not becoming greece. this won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we'll have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe in. but hats off to the president. >> we have been talking to the republicans since the election has been over. they have had trouble to say yes to a number of repeated offers. >> so what kind of deal if any can we expect before the clock runs out? joining us for a fair balanced debate, tony is here, national political corre
the fiscal cliff. >> hopefully the next time i see you, and it is in a few hours on the air here, and you are back because you say, don, we have a deal. >> and because i told you so. >> yes. thank you, congresswoman bass. and ali, someone tweeted and they say, don lemon and ali vel shishgs i am looking to you to keep me calm, because i have just accepted that we are going over the fiscal cliff, happy new year. >> look, the world is not going to come to an end when it happens and two points, and people keep asking me, what will happen to me if we go over the fiscal cliff, and one thing is that you will feel some taxes going up and the paycheck is going to be smaller, with but that is two weeks to a month before it happens, but the more important thing is what has already happened, don, and that is that people spent less money, and the consumer confidence which had been going up for a long time has started to come down and the economy is feeling worse, and the congresswoman mentioned sequester and we won't get to that. the sequester is $109 billion in automatic spending cuts this coming yea
the looming fiscal cliff within the next six days. it's a matter that's been made all the more difficult with news today that speaker boehner's house will not be back to work on thursday. we've got kristen welker joining us from beautiful honolulu. that's a lovely spot there. >> it is. hey, karen. >> hey. wel get to the fiscal cliff in just a moment. we understand that you've just gotten word that the president is actually getting updates on the condition of former president rw bush. what can you tell us about that sfl. >> that's right. according to a senior official, president obama has been kept up to date on the condition of former president bush. he is recovering. he spent christmas in the hospital. doctors kept him there after concern that his fever was increasing. now, the senior administration officials won't confirm who's updating president obama. karen, it's not unusual for a sitting president to be kept in the loop when this type of situation arouss. when a former president is ill. so we are being told he has been kept in the loop. and of course the entire white house watching
to avoid the fiscal cliff can happen in the next couple of hours. let me bring chuck todd in. and dan, i loved when you were talking and ed rendell went like this, and you pushed him hand down and continued talking. that was effective. >> maybe they should do that. >> chuck todd. chuck. >> look, you know, the irony to all this is i think when you look at the deal that's about to be struck, if it happens between mcconnell and biden, it's pretty clear that the white house and mcconnell would have gotten this deal done if they were the two negotiating partners. mitch mcconnell. look where they're coming around on. when boehner decided to halt the talks and go toward his plan "b," they were upset because they thought the white house should be coming up another $100 billion, $150 billion on spending cuts. what i never understood is why stop the talks right then? if you believed you were close, the white house at $400,000, boehner at $1 million, they stopped trading proposals. boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to e
a small deal on taxes before the fiscal cliff deadlines up, their next fight over the dead ceiling will be queued up and ready to go. whether or not we go over the fiscal cliff tomorrow night, a political stand-off over the debt ceiling is imminent. joining us sort through all of this current and future fiscal crises is ezra klein. at "the washington post" as well as columnist for bloomberg view. thanks for joining us. you addressed the issue of what happens next, i saw you on rachel's show friday. your theory are it's key to how the fiscal cliff plays out. explain. >> there's a significant difference of opinion in the political ramification of what happens if we go over and it comes down debt ceiling. if we go over the fiscal cliff they have all of the leverage because we'll go into the debt ceiling and it will be just like 2011 again. they'll say we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you cut entitlements, barack obama will say no and terrified of consequences of national default he'll say yes. so they'll get all of the entitlement cuts with no tax increases on the tabl
the fiscal cliff. with only three days to go, our next guest says it's not falling over the cliff we should be worried about, it's how much the landing is going to hurt. brian mcginnis is the head of the campaign to fix the debt, president of the committee for responsible budget and joins us this morning from washington. maya, good morning. what do you mean by that? what are you trying to say when you talk about the landing hurting the most? >> well, the point is that the fiscal cliff is a deadline and it's an important deadline that's there to help us focus on getting a big debt deal. the sad state of play is that it appears they're not going to be successful in that. they're not going to be able to replace the cliff with a big, comprehensive debt deal that's big enough to help fix the fiscal challenges of the country. but what's even additionally troubling now is that we may actually go over the cliff. and the fact that we are going to, because of partisan fighting, and an unwillingness to tackle these challenges, do something that is really going to harm the economy and harm all of us. i
. i think that would pass. there are ways to avoid the fiscal cliff in the next 36 hours. >> what is that mood like? i know you have been talking to them day in and day out. i was asking you on the commercial break what you are doing on capitol hill, what you are doing now. a lot of hurry up and wait. >> there's a lot of frustration. everybody understands this is a very serious issue. 36 hours from now, the fiscal cliff takes effect if there's inaction. there's some optimism. there's reason to be hopeful. i think the senate is going to come up with a plan we'll be able to vote on in the house. if not, the president put forward a plan that is ready to go now. there's no reason we can't get that done. >> the president has a back-up plan, he wants you to put something forward to make sure the tax cuts stay in place for the middle class. it's something you can support. what is your threshold? is it $400,000 or $500,000? if reid and mcconnell come up with a deal, what would you support? >> i would support $250,000. it's probably going to be higher than $250,000 somewhere between 400,00
government. host: can you take us through the next 48 hours on this debate on the fiscal cliff? what needs to happen? caller: ok. i say, the president should be willing to come up to $300,000, as far as tax increases. we need revenue. $400,000, some people make that. we need revenue. the only way to get it is to get it from people who actually have the money. there is no shame in helping our government. this is our government. the republicans need to understand that social security and medicare -- listen, those are so important. people are talking about i do not want children paying the bill. they will need social security as well. i want republicans to realize that they were elected to do the will of the people. not just the three% or whatever. they all need to understand that we are all affected by their thinking -- the president won the election, right? host: thank you for the call. i want to take you through some of the effects, if we do go off the fiscal cliff, if congress takes no action. this is the chart from the new york times of what will happen immediately and in the next couple
not their daughter. >> just ahead tonight. new hope lawmakers may not lead us over the fiscal cliff after all. come up next president obama draws new line in the sand. his plan for avoiding new year tax hike. >> luxury holiday cruise nightmare. not just happening on 1 ship nightmare. >> stern censorship changes over sea. one country insist all i know net users must do all i know net users must do before logging on. stay with >> late afternoon meeting at the white house brings some progress toward avoiding the fiscal cliff which is coming very soon. just a couple of days. tonight the president called the meeting constructiv constructive. mark matthews has look at the cost of going over the fiscal cliff if we do. >> president is optimistic but if deal can't be reached this weekend he will tell senate leader reid tiny introduce a fall back bill. >> bill on the floor that make sure that taxes on middle class family don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for two million people lay the ground work then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps to take in the
, a couple of days ago you said you thought we were going to go over the fiscal cliff and now we are in the midst of a lot of last-ditch bargaining between the senate leaders, reid and mcconnell, what are the chances for a small deal in the next, less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff. >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff, if we can avoid it. i think, whatever we accomplish, political victory to the president, hats off to him, he stood his ground and will get tax increases, maybe not 250 but upper income americans and the sad news is we have accomplished little, in terms of not becoming greece, that bill will not affect the debt situation and it will be a a political victory for the president and i hope we have courage of our convictions, when it comes to raise the debt ceiling to fight what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: quick follow-up, before we turn to senator feinstein, you said you don't think your conservative colleagues in the senate will filibuster or set up a procedural roadblock, they'll vote to avo
. will congress pass something in the next 48 hours, something? to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> i don't know. but, i guess, probably. and it will be a bad deal but i suppose better than doing nothing. and, every working american's taxes will go up january 1st if they do nothing about the payroll tax, a pretty big increase, and, defense cuts and everyone agrees, with that policy to have middle class americans' taxes go up, and, it totally irresponsible defense cuts and this is what congress thinks is a good deal. >> chris: i'm not sure it is a good deal but avoids the worst of the fiscal cliff. senator bayh -- obviously, we don't know, what is your sense, no filibuster in the senate? you heard lindsay graham and do republicans pass whatever the senate agrees to? >> the odds are somewhat better than 50/50 we get a minimal deal in the senate. not one that solves our debt problem, as you pointed out earlier and this is a prequel to going through it again around the first of march over the debt ceiling and getting us through this crisis, slightly better than 50-50 and the real question is in the house of
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this deal may not happen next. obviously a lot of attention tonight on the fiscal cliff. we're inside 30 hours until the expiration date on tax cuts. there are other important bits of business on capitol hill before the end of the year. in other words, in the next 30 hours or so. on friday, the senate approved a more than $60 billion bill to pay for construction costs for superstorm sandy. you see the video of that here. the house still needs to vote on that legislation. it isn't clear yet what the house is going to do. molly henneberg is live in d.c. there's a holdup in the house. what is it? >> the price tag. house republicans say it's too steep. a south carolina republican congressman said he and others want to help the people hurt by sandy but lawmakers need to figure out where the money's going to come from. >> it's not paid for. i know that's a difficult conversation to have but it's a necessary conversation. if we can't come together and figure out a way to stop spending someplace else to pay for this disaster, do we hope to be able to balance our budget and fix our spending diffi
. >> thank you, you too, adam. adam: the u.s. auto industry hit high gear this year in 2012. the fiscal cliff could throw all its gains next year. the lauren fix, known as the car coach is here to explain why and one of my favorite topics, cars. do you think lauren can name this beautiful automobile? we'll giver her a test. what kind of car is that and test her automobile chops next. and test her's as well. is now the time to put your house on the market. top real estate expert says, yes. she is here with details. we'll challenger. we awaiting president obama. he will take the podium in a matter of minutes and will bring you a statement on the fiscal cliff live. "piles of money" is on the way. ♪ she keeps you guessing. it's part of what you love about her. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or ur
in this is the first battle. they want to win the war. they don't want to get totally bruced in this fiscal cliff situation. they're willing to buckle a little bit on rates right now but ultimately when they talk about the debt ceiling, they think they can some other things they can attack 37. >> sam, is the obama white house this good? is this divide and conquer? >> well, first of all, no, they're not that good. and, you know, it's ironic because had boehner taken that last offer that obama gave him, one that would have changed the benefit structure for social security, it would have ended up fracturing the democratic base in some respects. a lot of progressives were upset the white house was even going there. they thought he didn't need to make that concession. a lot of this is the house republicans' own fault they're in in corner. they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying
on the fiscal cliff some time in the next four days and 14 hours. that's coming up at 11 a.m. "squawk on the street" will be right back. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> second day in a row retailers led the losers list. simon who can is here with what is coming up at 10. >> we will talk about where the markets are going to go from here, fiscal cliff, positioning for 2013 and kim co-on the program, one of the biggest owners of american malls. how are they faring as america spikes again? apple, a four-year low, they are experime experiments, carl, as you mentioned with curved glass. >> simon, looking forward to see you. >>> chicago drive mayors ring in the new year with reluctant, starting in january, they will be shelling out more for downtown parking meters than drivers in any other city across the country. the cost to park at a metered spot will rise to $6.50 a hour, double what drivers paid in 2008. so
're in the final stretch of the looming fiscal cliff and looking ahead to lawmakers returning to capitol hill tomorrow. that is next on the edge.  . >>> what are you doing new year's eve? about a million people will be packed to ring in 2013. he's more on how they're getting ready. >> reporter: already decorated for the holidays, pressed for the world's biggest new year's party are underway in the big apple earlier today, time square alliance officials tested the confetti that will fall after midnight, throwing it out a window on to unsuspecting people on the streets and they will watch the ball drop monday night. the 2013 sign is situated on top of one-time square. it's seven feet tall. after four decades of dick clark helping america ring in the new year, 2013 will be the first celebration following his death. a special with his name and grades on it will be in the ball this year. we spoke with his fe
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're optimistic they can reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. next we'll take a look at the possible effects and perhaps to fight hunger in the -- programs to fight hunger in the u.s. >> today, we want to look at the issue of hunger in america. we want to welcome our two guests. caroline rye cliff and alicia coleman jackson dealing with food and hunger. i want to ask you as you look through some of these figures what surprised you the most? what did you learn? guest: well, thanks for having me. just to talk about some of our main findings our statistics are based on food calendar year 2011 and that's base tond food survey conducted in 2011. we found that about 14.9% households were food insecure. food insecure means they lack consistent food. food insecurity rate in the u.s. is around 14% to 15% since 2008. from 2007 to 2008 food insecurity increased with the resession. it was at 11% prior to the recession. >> let me go to this sub head linebacker here. the 15% of these households being food insecure means they have trouble putting adequate food on the table. the question is why? why do we h
. >> reporter: christine romans. >>> that fiscal cliff, it's looming. ali velshi is here next with a special live edition of "your money." e he eel talk to the president and founder of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. we replaced people with a machine.r, what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello? ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> checking stories that are trending this hour, how about taking a look at this snake? it is a python, 17 feet long. wandered, i like that word, into a florida everglades picnic area. it was
cliff. senate democrats have not. if the president and lawmakers cannot reach a deal in the next five days, automatic tax hikes and major spending cuts are set to kick in and economists warn that could trigger another recession. what else are we hearing from democrats on the hill? >> trace, very interesting comments from vice president joe biden up here for an unrelated matter about the fiscal cliff today. he says, essentially he was asked what do you think will pass? he said if you tell me what would attract republican support, i can tell you what would pass. if asked if he was optimistic, he said he was neither optimistic or pessimistic but was going back to talk to the president. the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with house republican leadership. >> american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating out the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house representatives to get what they want. >> reporter: as you mentioned, trace, the speaker's spokesman said aft
. >> next, talking about the fiscal cliff. john thune. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon today, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a republican deal? >> republicans advanced a proposal last night and you heard senator mcconnell talk about it on the floor. we're still waiting for a counteroffer. there was an indication we would receive the by 10:00 this morning, but discussions still continue. senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden are continuing to discuss this and we think there still could be a path forward. democrats have come out and made a huge deal out of changing this and republicans are very concerned that it should not be used as an offset to reduce or replace some of the spending cuts that would occur and democrats put forward an alternative. this is a process. there's a lot of give-and-take going on. republicans do not want to see new revenue, democratic tax increases, being used for new spending. that is where many members are drawing the line. >> you all want to use this tech
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debacle next. tracy: washington cannot agree on a plan for the fiscal cliff. we go to the nation's capital after break. let's take a look at how the dollar is faring against foreign currencies as we head to break. ♪ with fidelity's new options platform, we've completely integrated every step of the process, making it easier to try filters and strategies... to get a list of equity option.. evaluate them with our p&l calculator... and execute faster with our more intuitive trade ticket. i'm greg stevens and i helped create fidelity's options platform. it's one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. now get 200 free trades when you open an account. lori: the senate returns to washington tomorrow. with just five days to address the dreaded fiscal cliff. peter barnes is live in d.c. with the very latest. peter: everyone looking to leader harry reid and the president for plan c. they were discussing next steps to advert the cliff before the holiday on monday. no update today from the white house. a spokesperson for senator reid is saying "nothing to report. no conversa
for some direction after fiscal cliff negotiations stall. we get the word from the nyse floor, next on what you should be watching in today's session. later on, the anti-tax man himself is here to tell us about how he feels about the latest developments in the fiscal cliff negotiations. what a wild ride here we've seen all morning long. right now the dow up about 25. >>> welcome back to "squawk on the street." i'm john harwood in washington. i want to bring you up to date on the latest of the talks between vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. there's some concern among democrats who have heard that the income threshold for tax rate increases may be going up to 400, 450, $500,000. a source familiar with the talks just phoned me to say the democrats are only considering that under a couple of conditions. one is that if the threshold goes up to that level, the top income tax rate would go all the way back up to the clinton era rate of 39.6%. not some mid point of 37% talked about a couple of weeks ago. secondly, that it would be accompanied by more revenue from the estate tax than is happ
-- whatever's going to happen with the fiscal cliff, you know in the next three or four years, we will have five or six more showdowns. so that will beleaguer the president. he needs to do break-out things in foreign affair, improving relations between the united states and china. trading relationships that are more favorable to the u.s. he may raise the specter of climate issue. it is not a good one when you are running for office. but it may look good in history, 50 years from now. trying to, you know, post sandy, how do you get your hand on working on this problem in a global way? i think you will see him use executive orders more and more. i doubt you will get the outstanding legislative second-term agend a. there is too much gridlock. he wants to get obamacare if place. he cannot afford in history to have that thwarted, his signature domestic achievement. >> shannon: we can't read their minds, how much does the legacy impact the presidents in their second term? >> gigantic. they all read presidential biographies, that's a hobby. they start to imagine how people are going to look at the
you very much. i yield the floor. >> next, joe manchin talking about his plan for the fiscal cliff. their diligent work. they have committed themselves to this work and i appreciate it and they keep us all informed. mr. president, i rise today frustrated, embarrassed and angry. it is absolutely inexcusable that all of us find ourselves in this place at this time, standing on the floor of the senate in front of the american people hours before we plunge off the fiscal cliff. with no plan and no apparent hope. but here we are ande have got to do something. if we're as determined to go over the cliff as we seem, we've got to do something to soften theanding because at the bottom of the fiscal cliff, our our -- are immediate and massive tax increases, deep and indiscriminate spending cuts and the risk of another recession. so as we come down on the final hours, we have two choices -- to do nothing and cause an unbelievable amount of hardship for our fellow americans or to do something to reduce the suffering inflicted on our citizens by an inflexible political system. mr. president, i
: your fiscal cliff survival kit with the deadline fast approaching. our next guest says investors should look beyond the cliff and not just in the united states for gains. kevin is managing director of wealth management, the applied trust. joining us from louisville, thanks for joining us. i want to start talking about how markets are reacting to the fiscal clip back and forth. markets were down 20 points yesterday down 130 points when nothing has changed from yesterday to today. are the markets reading things properly? >> i think the markets are reacting to short-term news and certainly we expected more volatility around the fiscal cliff until its resolution we will see more volatility, more of the same. what investors have to realize is to look through that and think long term, it will be just fine. we are not going to get a resolution by december 31st but we most likely will get one in the early part of january and hopefully we can start to let more long-term things, look at earnings that should continue to propel stocks forward. shibani: everyone is eager to move all of this drama an
, a discussion on nasa's budget and mission. >> next, we will continue looking at the fiscal cliff negotiations and how americans would be affected if congress and the white house don't reach a deal. our guest is joseph rosenberg with the tax policy center, followed by a discussion on
this idealogical divide in america. >> what happens next? how likely it is we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington, d.c. right now? >> there's an infinitesimal improvement in washington because of the meeting today, but i still would say the odds, the people placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. still a little more hope than when we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist raffle, and cornell belcher. the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned, that will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up or down vote. >> what you're likely to see is something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention, especially on the senate side, to tone. what minority leader mcconnell was saying today, the tone was right. i think you'll see something coming out of the senate on an up or down vote which they'll have to have happen, but i think the problem co
advantage to waiting to go off the fiscal cliff and coming back in january. the house speaker john boehner may have more flexibility as we're just saying. so that's one plus and democrats also will have a strengthened position in the congress come january. >> if republicans wait until the start of the new congress they can say, you know what? we voted to lower taxes. >> exactly. >> they just went up. >> i want to end with you here because we spend a lot of time talking about the fiscal cliff and the fact of the matter is the sequestration is fazed in. >> right. >> when you start talking about some of these taxes, whether it's the ending of unemployment insurance -- >> yeah. >> whether it's the payroll tax holiday going away, you start talking about an immediate impact for millions of families in this country. >> part of david's spoipoint is there's two to three-month wriggle room and shifting resources to unemployment insurance to keeping marginal tax rates unchanged, you know, for the next few months. at some point, look, they won't be able to do that. i would say it's unlikely wow won't
'm harris faulkner in tonight for shepard smith. the impending fiscal cliff that stands to affect the first pay check you get next month unless, of course, lawmakers can find a solution. today the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said there is still time to work out a deal. however, there is no firm evidence of any real plan. here is what we do know tonight. president obama cutting his vacation short arriving back in washington today. house lawmakers announcing late today they are now planning to return on sunday. but listen to the rhetoric. and you have to question whether that will do any good because near early everything that is coming out of d.c. is about blame. not answers. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them go in fact. they are not here. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnel
about in the fiscal cliff, and the debt e creeling that tim geithner said that we would have to raise any day now, and is this the next couple of months in terms of the debate? does the white house have a strategy of dealing with both in the next phase? >> well, they are quite clear that there's probably just too much at this point to put that in this initial package and specifically the debt ceiling, and saying there is no way to address that right now. they know that is the next big hurdle they are going to have to face once they deal with the immediate issue of the tax hikes and spending cuts, so i believe that you are absolutely right. in terms of the strategy f they have one, they have not revealed the details about that quite yet. president obama today, and what i thought was interesting is using the power of the bully pulpit to put pressure on congress to get this basic deal done that he is calling for, and richard, one of the things that he said at the end of the remarks is that essentially this is not how the american people do business and just to remind you that ordinary fo
for politics. less than three days until the so-called fiscal cliff and congress still trying to hammer out a deal. they've had 515 days to work this out. still, though, capitol hill leaders are at an impasse and starting next week, you and i could see our paychecks cut as payroll taxes go up and that could be just the beginning. the clock at the bottom right of your screen there might as well have a blaringa, large on it because come midnight monday if lawmakers have not found the fiscal cliff solution you're going to hear a whole heck of a lot of noise. let's get straight to washington. nbc's kristen welker at the white house and luke russert is tracking developments at capitol hill and nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here to break it down for us from the washington bureau. we will start with kristen. last we heard, kristen welker, the president came out to report that he is modestly optimistic. has the rhetoric changed at all today? >> reporter: it has changed a little bit. the president is still modestly optimistic, but i just spoke with a democratic source who tells me
for christmas. first, i want to ask you about the fiscal cliff and what's happening in the next couple of days. first, do you think it's possible we'll get anything other than a band-aid between now and six days from now when the triggers kick in? >> i'm very optimistic if all of us pull our weight and do some serious conversations we'll have a bipartisan solution, because nobody wants to go over this fiscal cliff. it will damage our economy. it will hurt every taxpayer, the largest tax increase in history. it will affect everybody, and anyone who is watching who thinks, oh this isn't going to impact me, you will fin out d o will, and we know the problem is a lot of spending. not that we're not taxing people more, we're just spending too much. we hope that the president understands that as for as republicans are concerned, we're willing to negotiate and have a civil conversation, but also he's got to bring in some spending cuts and tax reform, because americans want tax reform and we don't want to hurt the economy, and, look there, are not enough millionaires in the united states to tax them a
with respect to the fiscal cliff issue in the next few days. we talked earlier when the majority leader was here about the impact of the budget and taxes, senior citizens not being able to see doctors. it is crucial work. and i continue to be part of that optimist caucus here in the senate, believing that we can still find some common ground in these last few days on the fiscal cliff. and avoid going over the fiscal cliff. that is crucial work, mr. president, but striking the right balance between protecting our country and protecting our individual liberties is also important work, and for that reason, i wanted to walk through the history of the fisa amendments act this morning, describe why it was so important particularly for us to get even an accounting -- remember, mr. president, this doesn't disrupt any operations in the intelligence community. this is just an accounting of how many law-abiding americans have had their communications swept up under this law. that work is crucial, too. and for that reason, mr. president, i hope that on a bipartisan basis the amendments will be view
to be talking over the next 24 hours to try to fix this fiscal cliff thing. here's what they had to say. >> we had a long meeting in the white house it was very constructive. i hope that the next 24 hours will be very instructive with what we're able to accomplish. >> was there discussion of a concrete proposal? >> we talked about a lot of things. there's no concrete proposal at this time. we have a number of different directions that we're goi to try to take and we're going to see what can be worked out. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference so we'll be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> wow. hopeful and optimistic. that sounds pretty good. i have our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and radio hill correspondent lisa. honestly, they are not calling each other names which yesterday was going on and optimistic
over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait until
weekend. good luck in washington now. >>> next hour we'll hear from more lawmakers about the fiscal cliff. we'll have senator bernie sanders from vermont he'll be here as well as representative karen bass of california. in our 1:00 eastern hour right here on msnbc. >>> we need to turn now to weather. a winter storm another one dropping snow in the northeast. take a look now. you know a lot of people -- just a few days away. we've got a little snow coming down here now actually. that's the spot a lot of people are going to gather. right outside the studios here, rockefeller plaza. but the new year's countdown they expect some million people to be out there when the ball drops. but when that ball drops, how bad is it going to be out there? are they going to be getting snowed on? dylan dryer, would you recommend going out there on new year's receive in. >> of course. it's new year's eve in new york city. but the snow will be gone by then. it is a snowstorm nonetheless and the roads and anyone traveling in the northeast will run into some issues. we've already seen some reports of pretty bad
were so close to the fiscal cliff deadline. >> glor: nancy cordes, thank you. major garrett has been following developments at the white house. major, what is the president's next move? >> reporter: it is not a breakthrough but it is a glimmer of hope. officials tell cbs news the president will meet with harry reid, mitch, house speaker john boehner, democratic leader nancy pelosi tomorrow afternoon at the white house. to try to find out if there is a way to avert the fiscal cliff. today, after the president returned from his vacation in hawaii, he did meet with his senior advisors. they did conduct some back- channel negotiations as they have been during the holidays on a bill to possibly avert the fiscal cliff. those talks i'm told did not make much progress. the face-to-face conversations may fact create the possibility of a breakthrough. but right now the president has no new proposals to give his congressional leaders. he will stick with what he told the nation on friday-- raise income taxes for households earning more than $250,000, extend unemployment benefits for those americ
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business including a possible deal on the fiscal cliff. the senate will be in at 1:00 eastern. though it's in the senate are scheduled for to o'clock p.m. eastern. according to "the washington post" perry began mitch mcconnell have set a deadline at 3:00 when they will be convening caucus meetings and that date members for a possible plan on taxes and spending. president obama was on "meet the press of" today saying the pressure is on congress to make a deal. he was optimistic, but he said that they cannot come to an agreement, he wants the senate majority leader to introduce legislation to make sure middle class taxes stay where they are. live coverage of the senate on c-span2 when the gavel in. the house out to woodcock with the boats as early as 6:00 looking at a number of legislation from veterans to foreign aid. you can watch the house live here on c-span. >> republican olympia snowe from maine is also retiring at the end of the 112th congress after three terms. next, her farewell address. it is about 35 minutes. >> i rise today with an infinite appreciation for the institution of t
-span fiscal cliff website to get the latest information. you should be checking back over the next 48 hours as things develop. guest: 8 the deadline this afternoon. the senate has set a self- imposed deadline for 3:00. host: is that senator reid's plan b? guest: it is clearly fall back. we will try to come up with negotiations. if not, we will bring a bill to the floor, he will tell the republicans. it will increase taxes on everyone earning over $250,000. it will fix the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment. it would be those three elements. he would be saying to the republicans, negotiate with me. we can do to something better. otherwise, we will take a vote on this. i would expect this to be filibustered. that may play into what the white house wants, that would mean republicans having to take responsibility. john boehner did promise to bring up whatever the senate passed. he said we might amend it. an amendment process would almost certainly mean going over the cliff. host: sue is next on the independent line. caller: i think members of congress and the senate need to remembe
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